enough is enough

[mantis]

any of you guys down in Tx try Henon? we get pretty hot and dry here in the summer, with months of little to no rain, and Henon, once established for a few years, does pretty good.

My friend Scott has henon... not sure how it does because his horses eat all the new shoots every spring.

[Bamboo Outlaw]

I have seen Henon get around 2" dia here. It has the pretty color and looks good. The Viridis gets 3" dia and a much more open grove you can walk thru. Personal taste between these two as both perform.

[needmore]

Roy Rogers is conspicuously absent from these posts about a cold Florida - anyone kept tabs on Mr. Rogers?

[Bamboo Outlaw]

Has his old house sold yet? Where is he moving to?

[boonut]

I see him on facebook every day. He is keeping fairly busy with that. I will post a message on facebook to see how he is doing.

[needmore]

How did folks palms fare during the cold snap (the trees, not the attachment to your arms)?

[mantis]

How did folks palms fare during the cold snap (the trees, not the attachment to your arms)?

I only have a few varieties currently in the ground. Queen palms show no damage at 18°F (20' tall, 4 years old). Lady palm showed no damage (2 years old, but only 4' tall). Fishtail palm is died earlier this year when we hit 23°F (2 years old, 8' tall). Last year my 2 Foxtail palms died when we hit 28°F. I have some small bamboo palms that I've been growing from seed for a couple years, and they might pull through, but they are only 6" tall, and were covered by leaf litter from the bamboos.

As for potted palms... The Pygmy Date palm was burned really badly in the 23°F earlier this year, so I put it in the garage for the latest freeze (all the ones in my neighborhood that got hit by the 18° look dead.) My Triangle palm, Parajubaea, and Madagascar palms are all living in my greenhouse now. They were outside for the 23°F, but put under my covered patio, so they probably only got down to 28°F, and showed no damage at those temps. Jubaea was outside at Bamboo Outlaws place, and had no damage at 28°F, and was in my garage for the 18°.

What else... Bismarckias were in the garage for both freeze events, so they are fine. Oh yeah, Washingtonia looks fine (in a pot on the deck for 23°, in greenhouse for 18°). Sabal Minors at our property look fine, but I don't think a nuclear winter would effect those. The Sagos in the neighborhood show top damage from the 18°F (no damage at 23°).

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. I got a good number of my palms from marcat, so hopefully he can chime in with some additional info.

[needmore]

I was given a small Sabal minor that I put in a spot slightly below the edge of a deck, whenever we got snow the shoveled snow was piled on top of it so it spent some time each winter covered - even though we don't generally have snow on the ground for very long at a time the piles stick around lots longer. That thing held on 4-5 winters in a row during multiple subzero spells but I finally dug it out last year as it also never grew any at all in 4 years.

I tried a beautiful T fortunei a few years back, it was a very good size specimen but it died in winter one - when I dug it out the roots were in a wet soggy muck so I'm sure that is what killed it. The R hystrix is purported to be the hardiest and I'm tempted but I suspect they grow at a glacial pace as well and I'm damned impatient when it comes to plants. Just ask my Phyllostachys, they 5-6 years to get some size or WHACK (Phy lithophylla take note).

[Alan_L]

Just ask my Phyllostachys, they 5-6 years to get some size or WHACK (Phy lithophylla take note).

If that little lithophylla we dug up in the fall was 5 years of growth, I'm surprised you kept it around that long!

I may be thinking of a different plant though... maybe it was the viridiglaucescens that was the really small one? Can't remember now.

[foxd]

Long range weather forecast has us going back into the teens in about a week. I am hoping that it doesn't get much colder than that for the rest of the Winter.

[Alan_L]

Long range weather forecast...

Where do you find info like this? I can never find a good source. The NOAA climate prediction center shows maps with probability of normal, below, and above-average temps for certain number of days in the future, but nothing specific.

[foxd]

Long range weather forecast...

Where do you find info like this? I can never find a good source. The NOAA climate prediction center shows maps with probability of normal, below, and above-average temps for certain number of days in the future, but nothing specific.

You will need to modify this for your area:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=we ... 2C+indiana

I like the amount of detail presented.

[artie]

any of you guys down in Tx try Henon? we get pretty hot and dry here in the summer, with months of little to no rain, and Henon, once established for a few years, does pretty good.

Henon grows well in northeast Texas. Someone started a few groves of henon about 50 years ago that have done well in the acidic, pecan bottoms of East Texas.

[mantis]

DAMMIT! Just saw the forecast, and Saturday morning is supposed to be 26°F. It was 80° on Friday, and has been in the 70's for a week now, so a bunch of stuff has started actively growing again. This freeze is going to hurt.

[ghmerrill]

DAMMIT! Just saw the forecast, and Saturday morning is supposed to be 26°F. It was 80° on Friday, and has been in the 70's for a week now, so a bunch of stuff has started actively growing again. This freeze is going to hurt.

i feel your pain... we had that real hard freeze here, then it warmed up, and it has barely touched freezing, and just a couple times since then. I just know we are going to be in for some more cold weather... probalby about the time things start to recover here too....