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Heteroclada seedling variation

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I noticed that one of my seedlings varied from the others in that it had slightly twisted leaf growth similar to P. nuda (at least the selection that I have) this one also seems to have much shorter leaves and began branching very quickly. I left the rest of my heteroclada seedlings outside but brought this one in because I thought that it was something unique.
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One of mine seems to have swollen nodes, but I'm not able to get a good picture either. :cry:
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I had a funny looking one, but it fizzled out.
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I have a 1st-yr P. heteroclada seedling that has shown nice variegation all summer. It is currently outside getting blasted by an Alberta clipper so hopefully will survive the winter.

The curly-leaf syndrome does make me wonder. I have a P. nuda too that exhibits that and I tend to think it suffers from a viral infection. This could explain why it fails to live up to all the hype about its superb winter hardiness. :?
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Interesting thought on the virus. I am going to look into it. My nuda survived last winter just fine and this year the tallest shoot got up to about 3.5 feet. I think it was a summer division in 04 and was quite small when I got it. Hope the variegation pans out for you. Do you have any pictures of the variegation?
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I don't have a good photo of the variegation yet. Over all, I'm not too hopeful about my heteroclada seedlings being very cold hardy, tho I suppose it's way too early to draw any conclusions. I should be happy they already survived 1 winter outdoors.
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I was looking at one of the shoots on one of my Heteroclada seedlings and the Oral setae have a very reddish hairy appearance in comparison to the shoots from other seedlings. More like the MOSO seedlings, though the form and leaves of the seedling is definitely that of the Heteroclada.
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Finally a better shot from my Nikon
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Nice pic. It does look unusual so far.

Nate, hope you got the seeds I sent. Maybe they have been delayed because of the storm.
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No show so far. I am guessing that they are/were some how stuck in Denver or slowed because of the extra mail.
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mailmen open packages and if they like what's inside.....they take it
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Iowaboo wrote:mailmen open packages and if they like what's inside.....they take it
Hmm... You could be on to something. Grass seed and spores might seem very appealing to a mailcarrier looking for some relief this time of year.

I have a strain of Arundinaria gigantea which displays the curled leaf trait/variation.
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Grass seed and spores might seem very appealing to a mailcarrier looking for some relief this time of year.
spores! :shock: That changes everything. Government confiscated it. You were put into the system as a possible terrorist.
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Seeds that were mailed to me took nearly a week to get here when they would normally take three days.

I have wondered if mailing Castor Bean seeds would trigger any sort of terrorist response. :?
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I got 2 seed catalogs in the mail today. I caught the neighbor kid getting it out and said "hey what do you think your doing?" No sign of the packages yet. Anyhow look forward to receiving them.
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