More on unknown clumper
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More on unknown clumper
Here's a couple more pieces to the puzzle:
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Second shot taken 5 days ago, the first was taken today.
Culms and culm sheaths are covered with tiny hairs.
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Second shot taken 5 days ago, the first was taken today.
Culms and culm sheaths are covered with tiny hairs.
RE: More on unknown clumper
A totally uneducated guess, but the leaves look like a Dendrocalamus.
edit: or a Gigantochloa.
edit: or a Gigantochloa.

RE: More on unknown clumper
I'll take a stab at it. Bambusa atra
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Re: RE: More on unknown clumper
Nah, the leaves are different, but at least you had to culms topld5000 wrote:I'll take a stab at it. Bambusa atra

Is the mystery plant a seedling?
Bambusa atra

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RE: More on unknown clumper
Honestly, after looking in the photos section my guess is G. apus.
Edit: I'm wrong. I have this mystery plant too... If I were to put $5 on it I'd bet it is D. yunnanicus. Well, at least mine is.
Edit: I'm wrong. I have this mystery plant too... If I were to put $5 on it I'd bet it is D. yunnanicus. Well, at least mine is.
RE: More on unknown clumper
Yes its a seedling, not even a year old.
1. Culms and leaves are hairy
2. It has auricles
3. The leaves are not shiny and kind of ruffled.
1. Culms and leaves are hairy
2. It has auricles
3. The leaves are not shiny and kind of ruffled.
Re: RE: More on unknown clumper
B-I-N-G-O and Bingo was his name-o.Roy wrote:
Is the mystery plant a seedling?
This is the same seedling that a lot of us got here that was told to be B. lako. It most definitely is NOT B. lako, but right now it is putting up a lot of energy... 3 shoots in the last week, and one shoot that is 3 days old is already 3' tall. It is definitely a prolific grower... faster shoot growth than any other boo I have.
I am enjoying this ID search a lot more than my B. textilis/tuldoides mess, since this one was a mystery from the get-go, and I didn't buy it under false pretenses.
I'll take some new pictures of mine this weekend to add to the thread.
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All of my B. lako and D. asper bamboo turned out to be the same species, this one is different however. The seeds of B. lako and D. asper were identical. Those seedlings have smooth culms and smaller leaves and lack auricles. Guessing D. strictus.
Maybe its Dendrocalamus sikkimensis? Don't have a shot of its leaves but the one photo showed flowering so perhaps thats what I got. It also says it has auricles, although I thought no Dendrocalamus had auricles. Are there any other Dendrocalamus with hairy auricles?
Maybe its Dendrocalamus sikkimensis? Don't have a shot of its leaves but the one photo showed flowering so perhaps thats what I got. It also says it has auricles, although I thought no Dendrocalamus had auricles. Are there any other Dendrocalamus with hairy auricles?
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I would have to see what the (hairy) auricles look like to make a comparison. Here's a close up of my D. asper and there is some hairy stuff there:Brian_K wrote:All of my B. lako and D. asper bamboo turned out to be the same species, this one is different however. The seeds of B. lako and D. asper were identical. Those seedlings have smooth culms and smaller leaves and lack auricles. Guessing D. strictus.
Maybe its Dendrocalamus sikkimensis? Don't have a shot of its leaves but the one photo showed flowering so perhaps thats what I got. It also says it has auricles, although I thought no Dendrocalamus had auricles. Are there any other Dendrocalamus with hairy auricles?

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RE: More on unknown clumper
I have an alleged D. strictus seedling that looks very similar to yours. It has very slight auricles/setae...
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... loseup.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus setae">
The seeds...
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/seeds.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus seeds">
The leaves and culms are very furry on this plant.
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo ... loseup.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus setae">
The seeds...
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/seeds.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus seeds">
The leaves and culms are very furry on this plant.
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Here's another picture of it...
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/Ds_blade720.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus blade">
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/Ds_blade720.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus blade">
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Re: RE: More on unknown clumper
Richard Waldron brought back from Asia some seeds he said were D. strictus and they looked plump like these. Of course other Dendro's seeds may also be plump.
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/seeds.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus seeds">
<img src="http://www.bambooweb.info/images/bamboo/seeds.jpg" alt="Dendrocalamus strictus seeds">
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RE: More on unknown clumper
First thing I thought when I looked at it was the "perhaps" strictus seedlings...
I have D. Yunnanicus and that is not it. Very similar picture however, to my Yunnanicus. Yunnanicus has huge leaves. Mine keep getting larger. I have some of the seedlings that came from various places with the larger leaves... but, looked identical to my younger D. Strictus. I have a more mature D. Strictus in the ground and it put up very different culm shoots this year after all the rain. Normally the hair on the culm sheaths is white... this year, they were black and about 3 inches.
Here is a picture of my yunnanicus from last year.

Here is a close up of a new shoot and culm sheath:

I have D. Yunnanicus and that is not it. Very similar picture however, to my Yunnanicus. Yunnanicus has huge leaves. Mine keep getting larger. I have some of the seedlings that came from various places with the larger leaves... but, looked identical to my younger D. Strictus. I have a more mature D. Strictus in the ground and it put up very different culm shoots this year after all the rain. Normally the hair on the culm sheaths is white... this year, they were black and about 3 inches.
Here is a picture of my yunnanicus from last year.

Here is a close up of a new shoot and culm sheath:

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RE: More on unknown clumper and others
Several years back Richard Waldron brought some seeds to Texas. He called them Mutabilis. Has anyone heard mention of these or get any?
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Here are the two seedlings side by side:
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On your left - D. strictus
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Notice the leaf sheaths are without hairs and the leaves are spaced sorta far apart. Also the culms are smooth to the touch.
On the right - D. ????
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The leaf sheaths have auricles and hair. But upon closer inspection, the culm sheaths near the bottom of the culms have very small or non-existant auricles. I was mistaking hairy ligules for hairy auricles.
So I would guess maybe D. jianshuiensis, barbatus, or sikkimensis.
<img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/b ... re1836.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket">
On your left - D. strictus
<img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/b ... re1840.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket">
<img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/b ... re1843.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket">
<img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/b ... re1845.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket">
Notice the leaf sheaths are without hairs and the leaves are spaced sorta far apart. Also the culms are smooth to the touch.
On the right - D. ????
<img src="http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b28/b ... re1846.jpg" border="0" alt="Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket">
The leaf sheaths have auricles and hair. But upon closer inspection, the culm sheaths near the bottom of the culms have very small or non-existant auricles. I was mistaking hairy ligules for hairy auricles.
So I would guess maybe D. jianshuiensis, barbatus, or sikkimensis.