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Bamboo article in the magazine of the Texas Electric Coops

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There is an article on bamboo in the March issue of Texas Co-op Power:
http://www.texas-ec.org/texascooppower/ ... ture2.aspx

I was surprised at the following quote:
Others are trying to get the word out that bamboo should be avoided as a dangerous invasive. Bamboo showed up on the “Texas’ Least Wanted List” at a conference on invasive species at the Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center in Austin last year. Andrea DeLong-Amaya, director of gardens and growing, believes that a little bit of knowledge can go a long way in deciding whether or not bamboo is right for you or your landscape.

“The main thing is to find a species that won’t be invasive,” she says. “People considering bamboo should ask themselves why they want it and then determine if there is a native species that will suit their purposes just as well.

“For example, if you like a lush look, horsetail might do just as well.”
In Texas isn't horsetail invasive?

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Sometimes, on very rare occasion's, you feel bad about Texas.
Yet more times than not, it's a great place to live.
The uneducated can believe many things.
Thanks to places like this, we all can learn.
Sad to say, but many wont come to read the truth.
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After years of trying, I just laugh it off!
The best part is when people come by and just look the whole place over.
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I had a landscaper come to my house for an estimate. When I told him I had Bamboo he was very put off. Said he knew all about it and how bad it was. He even said he wrote an article about it. Clearly he was biased against it from his lack of correct knowledge on the subject. So much for experts.
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I agree with the lack of educated writers regarding the topic but sadly there are some people who have planted running bamboo across the country and made no attempt at control. I see situations in nearby Bloomington where bamboo has spread so far it is no wonder why we see articles like this.

Several years back when I first got the bug, I noticed that people who shopped in our natural foods coop were often the type that had planted bamboo. I took out a free classified ad in the coop's newsletter "Will get your bamboo grove back 'in-bounds' in exchange for the plants." I got some many calls I could not possibly handle them all. Some of the sites were so out of control that I couldn't figure out where to start and politely declined the free bamboo. Since then I've seen lots of examples of this.

Tis a shame because it can be so easy to keep controlled with initial effort & commitment but you can't plant it and stand back watching it run amok.
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I've had a couple of cases where people are complaining about bamboo invading their yard, only to find out that what they are dealing with is Arundo donax or Japanese Knotweed. I will long remember the day that someone told me the bamboo invading their yard had bloomed with purple flowers.

Now I start out by getting a description of the invading plant. Applying techniques for controlling bamboo would only make Japanese Knotweed mad.
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I just found this one on the Wall Street Journal Website:

Call the Pandas: Bamboo Engulfs Defenseless Yards

It even has a video of the guy going at the bamboo with a machete in order to show how difficult it is to get rid of. :?

For no particular reason, there is this statement stuck in the middle of the article:
So even as some people struggle to get rid of bamboo, others are out there planting more of it. Mr. Salmon, for instance, runs a business called Needmore Bamboo Co. in Nashville, Ind.
From there, no further mention of Brad or Needmore Bamboo Co.

And to think that in the past the Wall Street Journal gave us such news stories as the destruction of Chester, IL by UFOs in 1977. (Of course the city was later rebuilt by UFOs and almost everybody's memories erased, resulting in some strange news items. Why do I even know this?)

In an unrelated article a reference to the event can be found here:

Visit Popeye in His Hometown...Chester, Illinois
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I did an interview with the WSJ a few weeks back and last weekend they asked me for clarity on something, and said that the article would run soon. I wonder if the one you saw was a different article and they stuck something from me in it as it doesn't sound like the 'bent' of what we discussed? I'm not a subscriber so I can't view the whole article but the reporter is who I spoke with. Can you paste the whole article in here?
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Call the Pandas:
Bamboo Engulfs
Defenseless Yards
Relentless Spread Foils
Poison, Pickax, 'Dozer;
The Polyethylene Cure
By MATTHEW ROSE
March 24, 2008; Page A1

Randy Bothwell, a police detective in Chester, Pa., considered and rejected a number of ways to rid his yard of bamboo: salt, an exorcism, shooting it with his service revolver. When he asked for advice at a local garden center, he says, they "laughed hysterically."

So Mr. Bothwell whacked the stand with a machete. It grew back. He bought a pickax and tried digging up the roots, a process that traced a 30-foot arc across his once-pristine lawn. One month and two broken shovels later, he rented a Bobcat minibulldozer and a big metal trash bin, acquired 14 gallons of poison and bought 24 cubic yards of dirt to fill the resulting hole. Total approximate cost: $1,500.


WSJ's Matthew Rose reports from Hillsboro, Va., where residents battle a relentless growth of bamboo.
One year later, a single shoot appeared. "It gave me ... the final salute." Mr. Bothwell says. "I was like, 'Mother of God.' "

Bamboo is environmentally friendly, grows fast and forms a nifty screen that walls off the neighbors. It's also eating suburban America.

Bamboo spreads relentlessly, like kudzu and Japanese honeysuckle, two other species that drive gardeners to distraction. Its roots are like steel cable, and neighbors sometimes battle over the consequences. A 2002 lawsuit, which complained that the plants were threatening a pool and a retaining wall, summarized one part of the problem: "Bamboo is not indigenous to Long Island, New York."

"The client thought it was evil," says lawyer Steve Lester of Garden City, N.Y., who represented the plaintiff.

Brent Langdon, a software engineer in Sterling, Va., spent two years trying to clear 200 square feet of bamboo lodged in the hard Virginia clay at a home he had bought. He used a pickax to soften the roots and applied potent Roundup herbicide.

After one exhausting weekend, Mr. Langdon decided to cut it all down and rented a large commercial chipper to dispose of the remains. The bamboo jammed the machine. It "wrapped itself around the coils," he recalls. He had to rent a trailer to haul the debris to the dump instead.

There are two popular types of bamboo that grow in the U.S., known as running bamboo and clumping bamboo. Running bamboo, not surprisingly, is the problem. Depending on the species, it can grow up to 80 feet high and 7 to 8 inches in diameter. Bamboo roots tunnel far from the plant and spawn new shoots, often dozens of feet from the original stand.

Not only does bamboo grow fast, it's virtually indestructible. Bamboo growers claim the plant was the first to re-emerge after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. William Aley, an import specialist at the Agriculture Department's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, says he can't say whether the story is true, but confirms that "depending on how deep the heat flash was at a bomb blast, the shoots are formidable enough to survive having the above-surface portions destroyed."

Bamboo, which is most commonly found in East and Southeast Asia, became popular in the U.S. in the 1970s when homeowners began planting it. More recently, scenes of gracefully wafting bamboo in the 2000 movie "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" did wonders for that particular species, says Brad Salmon, president of the American Bamboo Society. Besides being beautiful, say bamboo advocates, the plant, as a source of material for flooring and some other building materials, is an environmentally appealing alternative to cutting hardwood forests.

So even as some people struggle to get rid of bamboo, others are out there planting more of it. Mr. Salmon, for instance, runs a business called Needmore Bamboo Co. in Nashville, Ind.

Plastic Moat

In Seattle, James Clever, owner of Bamboo Gardener, both spreads bamboo and experiments with ways to keep it from spreading too far. He recommends encasing the planting area with high-density polyethylene sheeting, sunk 2½ feet into the ground.

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Pampas grass, a native of South America, is invasive in California.
He started offering polyethylene with a thickness of 40 mil, a unit of measurement equal to 1/1000th of an inch. But the bamboo "pierces it like a spear," Mr. Clever says. He found a plastics manufacturer that would go to 60 mil, but even that was "compromised by black bamboo." Now, he recommends using only polyethylene of 80 mil, about 1/12 of an inch thick.

Mr. Clever loves bamboo. If it spreads too much, "the problem is not bamboo, the problem is a human error" in installing and siting a stand of it, he says. "That's how I keep busy: lots of people out there screwing it up and getting it wrong."

There's little agreement on the best way to eradicate bamboo when it gets out of hand. Natural remedies such as pouring on salt or undiluted vinegar are generally scoffed at. Many experts suggest cutting bamboo to the ground, adding weed killer and then mowing regularly to keep new shoots under control.

Erik Christiansen, a doctoral candidate in history at the University of Maryland, used bamboo canes he hacked out of his garden in Greenbelt, Md., to build a compost bin and a couple of trellises. As far as getting rid of it is concerned, he says, "to me the only thing that works is you cut it down, it grows back, you cut it down, it grows back, you cut it down, it grows back. And hopefully it doesn't grow back after the third time."

Bamboozled

In Kensington, Md., Scott Robinson, owner of a business that makes sports novelties, hired a landscaper to dig a trench in front of his bamboo grove. It stretches 50 feet across the back of his yard. His landscaper lined the trench with the kind of metal flashing more commonly used for roofing.

The bamboo roots, however, disappeared below the barrier. They sprinted sideways into a neighbor's yard, then doubled back onto Mr. Robinson's. "Literally, short of using a backhoe to dig up the backyard, I don't have a solution," he sighs. "We could keep a herd of pandas."

Francis Gouin, a professor emeritus in ornamental horticulture at the University of Maryland, who decades ago experimented with the tropical defoliant Agent Orange, has developed what he says is an eradication strategy that really works, involving the application of doses of weed killer at precise times. Mr. Gouin has simpler advice, though: "Don't plant bamboo."

Write to Matthew Rose at matthew.rose@wsj.com2

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Well that certainly is a well balanced article. :roll:
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mantis wrote:Well that certainly is a well balanced article. :roll:
If you're able to watch the video - you can tell the guy with the machete is not the sharpest knife in the block, and/or is a couple sammiches shy of a picnic.
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Randy Bothwell, a police detective in Chester, Pa., considered and rejected a number of ways to rid his yard of bamboo: salt, an exorcism, shooting it with his service revolver.
BULLETS WON'T STOP IT!!! :sign5:
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It is interesting the math used in converting mils/
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Randy Bothwell, a police detective in Chester, Pa., considered and rejected a number of ways to rid his yard of bamboo: salt, an exorcism, shooting it with his service revolver.


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Rick, thanks for pasting the text. I sent this message to the reporter tonight, we'll see what comes back....




Matthew, a friend provided me the text of your bamboo article and to say that I am disappointed is an understatement. I find the article to be one-sided, inaccurate and ill-conceived unless your intention was to write an anti-bamboo article. You and I discussed relatively easy & inexpensive containment methods that can allow many gardeners to enjoy this wonderful & versatile plant, but this discussion was somehow omitted from the article, leading me to question your desire to tell a complete but potentially less interesting story. Additionally, by quoting people who obviously know nothing about bamboo containment and/or eradication methods you serve to perpetuate the myths about growing bamboo and have made your contribution to 'urban legends'.

I hope that the errors of omission were unintentional and that the Wall Street Journal is truly interested in fair, balanced and accurate reporting in your publication. If so, myself and others would be happy to participate in an 'in errata' article that more accurately represents the realities of growing bamboo.

I look forward to your reply and am hopeful that we may have an opportunity to discuss this further, Sincerely blah blah blah...
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Fearmongering sells better than facts and education. It's frustrating to see these myths and fears perennially perpetuated. I think the real invasive species here is man and his prejudices.
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